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Running MANGO in a WRAP Board ALIX 2D embebbed Solution working 100% with Arduino

hugo007 — GMT

This tuturial is for thoose want to build a small box to run Mango or ScadaBr
Since I was looking for a small pc I remember to use a Alix board that is more cheap than a pc and more compact and try to build a linux debian based system and them install MANGO
In this tuturial I will try to explain the steeps I take to sucssefuly install the debian and then the Mango. My choise of using mango was because I can't get ScadaBr running because of the installer script so I turn to Mango

In my configuration I will use:

An Arduino Duemilanove
an Alix Board 2D from PC Engines GmbH, can be bought at http://pcengines.ch/alix.htm
1 CF card 4Gb (for debian instalation and MANGO)

After a seach on google I found a website with some instrutions that help me to get all up and running
You can see all the instrutions where http://www.gooze.eu/howto/debian-installation-on-alix-board-howto/setting-time but for now I will try to resume some of then.
In case you have some dificult I sugest you to read the instrutions on the above link.
You will need a pc with a CFcard reader to start the instalation on the CFcard, in my case I'm using a Linux Mint distro but any other will do
I will assume you have some linux experience and soo I will not go to deep
Soo insert the CFcard on your reader.You will need to know waht was the /dev/sdXXX your system give to the CFcard. There are diferent ways to see this, I will describe 2 ways:
before insert the card open a console and type: "tail -f /var/log/messages" then insert the CFcard, you will see the text will flick and there you can read the /dev/sdXX that was assigned to your card
after that just hit CTRL+C to exit from the tail.Now you know the id of your device
Another way is just use the gparted wich is a disk tool to manage partitions on linux with a nice GUI.there you can also see the "/dev" id of your card

we will use the "dd" command to copy an image to CFcard with a prebuild of a debian instalation
open again a console in case you close the last one and download the image
$wget http://download.gooze.eu/embedded/debian/images/debian.tar.gz
then extact the tar using:
$tar -xvf debian.tar.gz
After that we can transfer the image to the CFcard using:
$ dd if=debian.img of=/dev/sd[b,c,d]
double check the command because if you make some mustake you can delete or harddrive!!!
it will take a while so just wait until you get the prompt again with the details of the duration and speed of the copy
After that remove the card and insert the CFcard on the alix board.Before you power it you will need a Serial cable to connect the alix board to your computer
You will also need a hiperterminal client, I had used gtkterm but you can use "screen" ou putty, its up to you.
The baud is 38400N,8,1
Open the port with with configuration and the power the alix board.
You should start to see some lines of a test memory wich is normal on the alix board and the wait until you see the debian instalation menu.This can take a while , do not remove the power, if soo perhaps you will need to reinstall the image of the last step
Follow the setup as normal(if you have trouble read the instrutions on the link I give above)
After the instalation is complete install ssh for remote acess.I will assume you already have internet conection on the alix
$apt-get install openssh-server
If you want to install mysql to support the Mango databases you can just install it by using:
$apt-get install mysql-server

Mango needs to have JAVA installed
In my case using "apt-get install sun-java6-jdk" it give me a message no package found then I had need to add a source to a new repository
use vi or nano and add the folowing line to /etc/apt/sources.list "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ lucid partner" without the " of course
Save it and update all sources using "apt-get update"
after that you should be able to install java then type "apt-get install sun-java6-jdk"
Then install a ntp package to automaticaly update the time of your system
$apt-get install ntpdate
$ntpdate pt.pool.ntp.org

In my case I'm using a Portuguese NTP server, adapt to your needs
after that confirm the date and time using
$date
It must display the right time and date now.
Now that we have all the requirements lets move to the MANGO instalation.
Visit the link http://mango.serotoninsoftware.com/download.jsp
Here we can find the parts we need
Open a console again and choose a location to store the instalation.I had installed on /usr
$cd /usr/local
Lets Dowload the TOMCAT:
$wget http://mango.serotoninsoftware.com/downloads/apache-tomcat-6.0.20.tar.gz
Extract it:
tar -xvf apache-tomcat-6.0.20.tar.gz
Rename the folder to tomcat just to be more simple
$ mv -R apache-tomcat-6.0.20 tomcat
$ cd tomcat/bin

For test the apachTomCat lets fireup it and see if it runs.To do this just do:
$ ./startup.sh
This will start the Service and now he would be able to open the welcome page of tomcat opening http://ip_of_box:8080
If you see the page you are ok, close it and lets stop it for now using :
$ ./shutdown.sh
Now we need to remove some folders inside the webapps/ROOT folder to store the MANGO
to do this use:
$cd /usr/local/tomcat/webapps/ROOT
Remove all folders using:
$rm -R
This will remove all folders and files on this location, we need to remove it because this is the root dir of tomcat, this are the files and folder displayed when you start Tomcat, since we want just the MANGO lets now dowload it for this directory and extact it were
Assuming you stil are in the same folder ("/usr/local/tomcat/webapps/ROOT") download the MANGO
$wget http://mango.serotoninsoftware.com/downloads/mango-1.13.0.tar.gz
Extact it :
$tar -xvf mango-1.13.0.tar.gz
To confirm all files and folder are now here just do an "ls -al" to list the directory:
$ls -al
you should see something like this:

root@supervisao:/usr/local/tomcat/webapps/ROOT# ls -al
total 28532
drwxr-xr-x 10 root root 4096 Jan 1 2000 .
drwxr-xr-x 7 root root 4096 May 14 2009 ..
drwxr-xr-x 12 root root 4096 Dec 19 15:52 WEB-INF
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Dec 19 15:52 audio
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Jan 1 2000 backup
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 6619 Mar 6 2011 customViewExample.jsp
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Dec 19 15:52 exception
drwxr-xr-x 18 root root 4096 Dec 18 23:34 graphics
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Dec 19 15:52 images
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1712 Mar 6 2011 index.jsp
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 29117044 Dec 19 15:52 mango-1.13.0.zip
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Dec 19 15:52 resources
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2436 Mar 6 2011 soundmanager2.swf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 8119 Mar 6 2011 soundmanager2_flash9.swf
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Jan 19 12:15 uploads

If this is your output to you are almost finish the instalation.
In my case In using an arduino to comunicate to outside world via USB port.In this case I need to include a file on java dir to be able to comunicate with serial ports ("dev/ttyUSB0 in my case")
If this is also your case lets just download the librxtxSerial.so and import it:
$wget http://mango.serotoninsoftware.com/downloads/librxtxSerial.so
Now we need to save in /jre/lib/i386
To find this location on your instalation just use:
$updatedb
$locate /jre/lib/i386
This will display the path of you java, now lets move the librxtxSerial.so to that location.Im my case it was:
$mv librxtxSerial.so /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-1.6.0.26/jre/lib/i386/

It's everything done
Lets start the Tomcat and test it on your alix Board:)
$cd /usr/local/tomcat/bin
$./startup.sh

In the first run the system will build the MANGO database soo it can take a while until the page loads.
It could take about 40 secounds soo be patient
When the page loads just enter the default login :admin admin and your MANGO small box is ready!!

I hope this tuturial help those you want to test it on a alix board.
I not a linux expert then it is possible to some steps could be wrong and could be a better way to do it.
This manual can be modified to get better and sugestions are acepted

email:hugo.santos@i9box.net

ICPcon

Mr-Manor — GMT

Hi. I am very new to tomcat, mango, and scada systems in general. Anyway I succeeded in installing the system on my controll pc. User interface works and now I would like to interface some devices.

On our local water supply we have some ICP DAS devices (from Taiwan) we would like to interface to a Mango system. Problem is I dont know what protocol these boxes are using.

It is a kind of simple rs485 bus and I can communicate with the devices using minicom. Below is scan from a sample page from the manual. I hope someone recognises it and maybee tell me how to interface these devices to Mango.

[img]http://klaus.vink-slott.dk/images/icpcon.jpg[/img]

Thanks!

Wago 750-841 Modbus Fieldbus Coupler

dkudos — GMT

Hey guys and gals nice to find this program. I have a question. I have a Wago 750-841 Modbus TCP Controller which I am able to talk to with a Java program I and a friend wrote using the Jmod library. I tried your data source setup and when do a node scan I get 1 thru 240 nodes?! Correct me if I am wrong but if I have one modbus coupler at one ip should there not be only one node? What do you think? Also I have a Mitsubishi City Line System up and configured on Mango just fine. Bacnet seems to be fine.

Let me know,

dk

Another Arduino/Modbus question

JanitorPants — GMT

I am wondering how to proceed with bringing back more than one variable from the arduino.

I have followed the tutorial from JointTech ([url]http://mango.serotoninsoftware.com/forum/posts/list/567.page[/url]) and it works great, however when I try to add more inputs things start to fall apart.

Does anybody have any pointers or better yet an example of a sketch outlining how to add in extra points?

Thanks,

BACnet/IP temp sensor?

jalles — GMT

I am looking for a room temperature sensor (RTD) that has a transmitter with 10/100baseT ethernet jack, TCP/IP stack, and BACnet stack.

It is going into a telecom closet, so ethernet access is assured. The control system front end is existing, don't need a web interface nor standalone operation. I would prefer no wireless.

This will likely be costly for a single sensor, but cheaper than a router, control module, and analog sensor.

Help & thanks!

Jim A.
Penn State Univ.

Labjack

mhradom — GMT

There was some discussion some time ago about using Labjack with Mango (someone wanted to monitor and control a remote cabin). At that time it was not possible due propriatary protocol. Labjack is now Modbus capable and has been tested ( if briefly) with Mango.

See here: http://labjack.com/support/ljsocket about halfway down the page.

This may open up a lot more possibilites for some folks.

Mike

Addition for two modbus address

pradeepdissa — GMT

Hi,

I have a Modbus device which sense temperature. It holds main part in address location 10 and the decimal part in address location 11 (eg:. temp is 25.5 ---> [color=red] 25 is in add 10[/color] and [color=blue]0.5 is in add 11[/color]). can you please tell me how to join these two separate numbers together in Mango. I am very new to Mango but I wonder seeing the power of the software.

Cheers

Dissa

Ascii through TCP

IronCaterpillar — GMT

Hello! I've got a problem, that I've described in modbus4j help forum. Here is the link: https://sourceforge.net/projects/modbus4j/forums/forum/810600/topic/3841078/index/page/1
Have anybody had such an experience?

Campbell Scientific...

kitplummer — GMT

Has anyone use Mango to interface with a Campbell Scientific datalogger, such as the CR1000? http://www.campbellsci.com/cr1000

Any thoughts on setting something like this up, where the mapping would need to be made between Mango configuration and the datalogger configuration?

Kit

GSM/GPRS hardware

schoeller — GMT

Dear all,

does anybody know which GSM/GPRS hardware device interfaces with Mango through GSM/GPRS? Ideally that piece of hardware would have a data logger and be battery-driven. It would log the sensors signals 0-20mA, 4-20mA and/or binary input.

Any hints? Ideas? Experiences?

Best wishes

Sebastian

Trick to get support for all 1 wire devices

Jokke — GMT

Now when there is the new process event handler (many thanks for a good feature). I made some experiments with it and came up with a way how to get from owfs data to mango. (see www.owfs.org)

I have been using scripts to feed data from owfs to mysql and mango is then reading the data base with SQL data source. This works but it is not too easy to setup for beginners.

Here comes an easier way using HTTP receiver datasource. It works quite twisted way with a simple script making calls with wget to the receiver. No mysql needed in between.

Option A
I made a virtual data source and a point with "alternate" change type. Then defined event detector to create events on change. So this point is periodically making events. The process handler is calling /var/lib/tomcat6/webapps/ROOT/test.sh

I have made a text file named test.sh into the ROOT folder and which has the following content

wget -q "http://127.0.0.1:8080/httpds?test1=`cat /mnt/owfs/some_sensor/temperature`"

This method can be used also for witing to owfs (sending commands to 1 wire devices)

option B

make the script running all the time(launched in system start) and make a loop structure with sleep. This is not under control of mango but might be even easier. Something like this (not tested)

[code]

#!/bin/bash

while true; do

wget -q "http://127.0.0.1:8080/httpds?test1=`cat /mnt/owfs/some_sensor/temperature`"

wget -q "http://127.0.0.1:8080/httpds?test2=`cat /mnt/owfs/ampther_sensor/temperature`"

sleep 30

done

[/code]

Some notes.

- the instruction works for linux(ubuntu). For windows it should be possible similar way but using .bat file. There is wget also for Windows, but some research needed.

- The owfs needs to have "--allow_other" to make the ow filesystem readable for the tomcat process.

- the .sh file properties needs to be set as executable and in option A have permission for the tomcat user(chmod 777, should do the trick)

carel modbus supported

bpm — GMT

Carel PCO3 is supported by mangoM2M 1.9.0

[url]http://www.carel.com/carelcom/web/eng/catalogo/gamma_dett.jsp?id_gamma=1&id_tipologiaProdotti=1&id_mercato=1[/url]
hardware: PCO3
serial card: PCOS004850
serial to usb : CVSTDUMOR0 with carel drivers

BIOS:5.09

PCO3 software used is custom made in 1tool

Regards
bryan M

embedded platform to run mango on - what ideas do people have

fclauson — GMT

I have been thinking of running mango on a dedicated small fanless box so that it can sit out of the way under the stairs and then use web access to control/access it.

What examples of h.w do people have for running this on?

My basic thoughts would be a small ATOM based box running Ubuntu server and tomcat. Have it as a fanless device - so its quiet - and use flash type storage device so again there is no moving parts

any ideas or suggestions welcome

(I am also on a budget and hope I can find somthing sub $200 or so)

Francis

Nibe Fighter 1130 with RCU 11

bamsejon — GMT

Hi!

I have just baught myself a ground heater with an attached RCU 11. I'm a total novice on modbus TCP to make that clear.

What I am looking for is a simple way to pick up values from the heater. In my knowledge they should be in holding registers. (Accordning to http://www.nibe.se/Pages/42625/RCU_Parameterlista_F1135_1235.pdf (In swedish, but in tables)

I have tried to configured mango, but when i enable the modbus IP in databases I get the following errors..
[quote]
ERROR 2010-03-29 21:36:33,593 (org.quartz.core.JobRunShell.run:211) - Job com.serotonin.mango.rt.dataSource.PollingDataSource.PollingDataSource-1 threw an unhan
dled Exception:
java.lang.AbstractMethodError: com.serotonin.modbus4j.ip.IpMessageRequest.expectsResponse()Z
at com.serotonin.io.messaging.SenderConnection.send(SenderConnection.jav
a:76)
at com.serotonin.io.messaging.SenderConnection.send(SenderConnection.jav
a:106)
at com.serotonin.modbus4j.ip.tcp.TcpMaster.send(TcpMaster.java:76)
at com.serotonin.modbus4j.ModbusMaster.sendFunctionGroup(ModbusMaster.ja
va:329)
at com.serotonin.modbus4j.ModbusMaster.send(ModbusMaster.java:272)
at com.serotonin.mango.rt.dataSource.modbus.ModbusDataSource.doPoll(Modb
usDataSource.java:83)
at com.serotonin.mango.rt.dataSource.PollingDataSource.scheduleTimeout(P
ollingDataSource.java:79)
at com.serotonin.mango.util.TimeoutJob.execute(TimeoutJob.java:48)
at org.quartz.core.JobRunShell.run(JobRunShell.java:202)
at org.quartz.simpl.SimpleThreadPool$WorkerThread.run(SimpleThreadPool.j
ava:525)
[/quote]

My configuration is
Transport type: TCP
Host: (Entered the IP adress)
Port: 502

I added one point.
Slave ID: 1
Register range: Holdning register
Modbus data type: 2 byte signed integer
Offset: 2 (Wich should be "Produktkod" or "Varmvattentemperatur (mantelgivare)" accourdning to Nibe
Settable: unchecked
Additive: 0

I guess it is something very obvious.
I have tried to make contact with another application that is using modbus and I get some results, so there is no network problem.

Regards: Jon - Sweden

puls for kw

sprokkie — GMT

I have a heat meter and for each KW of measured heat there is 1 pulse.
The puls is contact.

I want to have the pulse into Mango, so i can see the kw in a graph.

i have a 1-wire pulsecounter from hobbyboards, but mango doesn't support that.

any idea's

regards
sprokkie